Production Manager Wesley Turner: Five Years in the Bag. 5-G The biggest effect is on the bounce. [/quote] My swing has changed over the years a fair bit, yet i've always needed irons a bit upright from standard (a Euro standard although even that isn't really set in stone or anything).. 7-iron - 30 degrees. Well, I'm a touch over 6'. They will adjust each iron to get even gaps between each iron. [quote name='Kenny Lee Puckett' timestamp='144131685' post='12246270'] I've noticed that some of the higher launching/spinning players on tour (Rory, J-Day, etc) have their irons bent strong and I'm looking to hear some pro's and con's of doing this. You can post now and register later. While there is no way to say if any of that would be a problem or a benefit, it certainly will not have the same effect as tweaking the loft. Could be the flatter lie angles. [/quote] Your link has been automatically embedded. There is no worry about bending a club that was bent last year or last week. 6-iron spin: 6850 RPM Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. [/quote] Cleveland RTX4 Raw, Low Bounce 55*, Tour Issue DG S400. Titleist 712U 4i, C-Taper 120x Mickesgolf Most guys would love to have a little extra spin on those longer irons to hold greens, personally I would tweak the swing a bit but I wouldn't really change to much else as you have a huge advantage having that little extra spin there with a club like a 6 iron. Nike Vapor Flex 9.5* Left/Low, Rogue Max Low 75TX 9-iron - 39.5 degrees. As for whether or not you should bend your irons, its really up to you. 6-iron spin: 6850 RPM. get to work on improving your spinloft with your irons (I'm assuming this gets really really bad with you shortest clubs). stay away from attempting this on the course, and stay away from longer irons, until you've put in the time on the practice tee. [quote name='AustinA' timestamp='1444322114' post='12428254'] We've chosen this model as it is a popular iron that suits a wide range of players from low handicappers to game improvers. Lastly I thought bending irons stronger, influenced the bounce of the club as well. I have read that if you bend 1 degree strong you lower the bounce on the iron. Clubmaking: Bending Golf Clubs - A Necessity For Lower Scores - Equip2Golf That isn't the best or correct way by any means.it's just a tool. You can also bend the angles to a consistent specification precisely fit for any golfer. Can then bend the irons to get the sole level at impact - or with Ping you'll order them to suit. 7 iron 34 165 The mark on the sole will show if your clubhead is level or toe up or down at impact. You can strengthen the loft, which will reduce the spin and travel further but won't really fix your problem which I think is too much spin for given trajectory and distance. bigo2398, August 31, 2015 in WRX Club Techs. 4-iron - 20.5 degrees. Ultimately, your answer is yes, you can do this. Should I see any difference in 1 degree stronger irons? Golf clubs that are 17-4 stainless steel cast irons will be more difficult to bend, as they are made of much harder metal than the likes of carbon steel and graphite. **. Does the aggressive swing impart that much more dynamic loft and create that much more spin? The credit goes to this website for explaining the entire process. [quote name='Dan Drake' timestamp='1441041993' post='12239944'] [quote name='HandsomeMatt' timestamp='1441040098' post='12239780'] TXG Custom King Cobra Nova, 25 gram weights, Garsen Ultimate grip. I choose my lofts based on the yardages I want to hit it and nothing else. It is as basic as that. Here are the lofts of the irons in that set. Setting aside the discussion about why lofts are getting stronger, I was wondering why someone would bend the lofts strong rather than use the next club in the bag and swing smooth. Do you just go by the distance you hit them, and if you don't like your gaps you bend them a little? 6-iron spin: 6850 RPM I do feel like I need to improve my spin loft, but I know tweaking the clubs might help as well. One way to make the necessary adjustments to your golf clubs is to bend them. As mentioned, if youre thinking about bending your golf clubs, wed recommend consulting a professional club fitter first and getting a second opinion. move it forward again, then repeat. Or, (tinfoil hat on) TMAG wants him to be the poster boy for how long their new irons are and this way they get to hear McCord gush about how Day hit a 168 yard 9 iron. How do they test to determine which launch angle best suits you. Whether its changing the lie to improve accuracy or changing loft to make sure that the players clubs are progressively consistent, angle bending is a major factor in club performance. They should be leading and flat. I think its mostly because I have better spin rate with the mid-long irons now, although I never got any numbers. Golf is hard enough without a bag full of easy swings an choke downs? Setting aside the discussion about why lofts are getting stronger, I was wondering why someone would bend the lofts strong rather than use the next club in the bag and swing smooth. Does the aggressive swing impart that much more dynamic loft and create that much more spin? The irons Well the mid-irons are the perfect place to start. Mizuno JPX-800 Pro 5-P, X100 I was wondering if bending my irons 1 to 2 degrees strong at a golf shop will change the playability of the 712 AP2s. more upright = more of a draw, more flat= fade. Mine are a degree flat guess I'm opposite of the norm. [/color] [color=#282828]This made me wonder about messing with lofts and bounce (not to mention offset). Do you have any recommendations for drills or things to practice in order to improve it? There does seem to be an abrupt cut off on the minimum iron loft at slower swing speeds. Forged titanium models are bendable as well due to their softer titanium structure. Contact Us [/b][/size] Annealing ensures a more consistent grain structure in the metal; heat treatment makes the head hard enough to withstand constant golf ball impacts. So I play my irons 2 deg flat. Unfortunately what you then see is that they tend to pull their short irons. While some golfers can afford such a price tag to improve their clubs, others will balk at it! GIVEAWAY! [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1444240339' post='12423306'] But manufacturers are smart. XXIO X Series 5 Wood! If your intent is to modify them by making them one degree strong, you will be changing the play of the iron, and also the physical appearance possible (could be debatable if the human eye can tell one degree, I'm not sure since I have never had to do this to any of my sets.). [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1444240339' post='12423306'] How I go about it would be to get your loft and lies checked, then hit ball on trackman/flightscope/gc2, figure your carry numbers and adjust accordingly if you are that serious about doing it. If anything I am a digger in the golf swing. [/quote] Machines with fixed measuring gauges will not be accurate when measuring clubs with offset, progressive offset, or face progression hosel positions. So, there is obviously a new standard that the club-manufacturers have begun, so lets say the NEW 7-iron loft . TXG Custom PXG 0211 6-pw, 1* flat, Recoil ESX 460 R. Callaway MD5 46*, Tour Issue DG S200. Yes, when we talk of bending golf clubs, the iron family are the best candidates. Anything more than 2 degrees and the effect on offset is noticeable, TM Stealth 15 w/Ventus Red The bounce angle will also change when making the clubs stronger or weaker. clemsondds, August 1, 2009 in WRX Club Techs, Hey guys, just wondering if some of ya'll can explain why people bend their irons up to 2 degrees? Clear editor. And that changes the flight of the ball right? But it would reduce bounce by 2*, which may affect playability. In other words, make your 7 the length and lie of an 8, which should reduce the spin a bit. [quote name='bigo2398' timestamp='1441037749' post='12239474'] Even the most skilled repair professionals can occasionally break a club. I bent my MP-32 2 degree strong, my natural ball flight is high along with the low COG on the irons. flat but he has such a horrendous over the top move he gets by using irons that are 2 deg up. 8-iron - 34.5 degrees. Now, your club is set to be at the right lie angle for YOU at impact - and now it is up to YOU whether that's ok or whether you need to fix a hook or slice tendency. So I was fitted for clubs and the pro said that on my new clubs I didn't need any adjustment. It would seem that bending lofts stronger would make them go further. RBZ 25* hb; RBZstage 2 19* hb Are their ways to ensure a club wont break? Bending TM P790 irons up to 2 degrees weaker. Is it safe? Good idea? Hitting off a lie board covers the in-store, sell you a set of clubs mantra. Are Tommy Armour Clubs Good? hit a few balls each PW, 9, 8, 7, WAY back in your stance, I mean move it so far back it feels ludicrous. [quote name='AustinA' timestamp='1444322114' post='12428254'] ps i see a poster right before mine made comments about " good players " and their abilities to manipulate flight and trajectory of the ball just because a player has strong lofted irons does not give one indication of their ability so jump off your high horse .just because you may have a low handicap does not make you elite enough to judge others .. Ultimately, your answer is yes, you can do this. Move it more downline untill you achieve the desired trajectory. an 8 iron is easier to hit than a 6 iron), I'm trying to draw comparisons to modern irons with stronger lofts, and if . IMO there is no reason to start bending your Titleist strong dude. Weaker lofts mean (all other things being equal) getting the ball up into the air quicker, and a little higher trajectory on your shots. Maybe get a cheap 6 or two off eBay and try it? You cannot paste images directly. We're not robotic enough to predict that exactly 3 or 4 degrees is the correct gap empirically. Pw from 48* to 45*), that I will completely mess up the grind and . Bending irons 2 degrees stronger gopher99 May 9, 2021 May 9, 2021 Thread starter #1 G gopher99 Active member Joined Mar 15, 2019 Messages 235 Hi, i need some info from the more knowledgeable people on here than myself, I would like to bend my mizuno 921 forged irons 2 degrees stronger to fit in with the gapping on my wedges. Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. Bending Golf Clubs: 5 Facts & Fallacies However, before opting to have your golf clubs bent, wed recommend speaking to a custom club fitter. I've always just played with whatever I had, but I'm now trying to work my way up to being able to afford a set that actually fits me. Anything more than 2 degrees and the effect on offset is noticeable [/quote] 6 iron 29 183 Upload or insert images from URL. TXG Custom Mizuno T20, 50/05, 59/06, Nippon 950H Neo. [/quote]Not gushing about that but I will gush over a 63-62 weekend. Like said earlier there is no "real" standard. [quote name='clemsondds' post='1858228' date='Aug 1 2009, 07:36 PM']Ok thanks ya'll. If you don't like bend them back. Looking For Advice or Feedback, Stealth 3 Wood, Unique Odyssey, RTX Raw, Epic Flash, Ping Eye 2 BeCu 1 iron - $1,000here me out, Your Choice of EvnRoll ER11v Mallets ($210). To be bendable the iron has to have the proper heat treatment or annealing that will allow bending - let's make the assumption that quality irons indeed have this treatment. While the result of bending strong may be that short/mid irons go further, it won't help on the top end of the bag. I had a lot of success bringing my spin rate and trajectory down to something more playable in the wind by tweaking the lofts a little strong. Let me know what you think of the idea and/or if you have other suggestions to control my spin/launch, I'd love to hear them. 6-iron spin: 6850 RPM Thanks! Why Pros Hit Their Irons so Far? | Golf Tips & Lessons A wide back milled slot enhances the clubhead's stability on off-center strikes Added perimeter weighting with toe-bias Covered with a pearl brush finish Pros Soft feel at the impact on strikes out of the middle Promotes accelerated ball speed in your 4 to 7 iron shots Reduced offset allows for better shot workability There are different golf club bending machines out there at different price points, so you have lots of options to choose from if you want to bend your clubs yourself. You can easily bend the lofts and lies to be progressively consistent from one club to the next with zero tolerance. GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 24, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 17, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, April 10, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 27, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, March 20, By 2 deg flat seems to work pretty well for me. I am wanting to bend my 5-PW one degree stronger and my 4 irontwo degrees stronger to fit better with my wedges and hybrid golf club. But he said that the standard lie/loft(?) It wouldn't surprise me if that's exactly why Jason Day chooses to play 4-P all bent a club strong. which leads to your observation since a rather huge majority of golfers slice the ball (even if they like to call it a fade) then a simple band-aid is to bend it more upright.. in the same way most drivers have their faces set closed at address and also with far more upright lie angles than 'fits'. ps i see a poster right before mine made comments about " good players " and their abilities to manipulate flight and trajectory of the ball just because a player has strong lofted irons does not give one indication of their ability so jump off your high horse .just because you may have a low handicap does not make you elite enough to judge others .. [quote name='rybo' timestamp='1441146850' post='12247568'] Most launch monitors are not very friendly to lefties so I don't even bother. You would still have to take the next club down to get to the distance you want. Windtree Golf is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program. Here are some of the facts, and fallacies, about club adjustment. 6 iron 30 180 You should absolutely give it a try with a few clubs and see what you think, you can always go back and it might just work. Display as a link instead, Most guys would love to have a little extra spin on those longer irons to hold greens, personally I would tweak the swing a bit but I wouldn't really change to much else as you have a huge advantage having that little extra spin there with a club like a 6 iron. 6 iron SS: 95.5 mph So for many, playing an upright lie with your irons is a quick and dirty fix for those who can't or don't want to take the time to fix a swing flaw. Biggest difference is in hit 2 degree upright in the center much more often and not as thin. CallawayTCB w/ LAgolf L-series 5 Players have been doing this for a long time. YOU have to be in control of trajectory in your iron play, tweaking your specs is just a bandaid. Did I just answer my owne questions, do pro's bend the clubs stronger to have less bounce? Never go more than 2 degrees when making adjustments. . This is helpful if you want to adjust instead of replacing your irons, particularly if their loft angles arent as they should be. Paste as plain text instead, It will just require substituting a hybrid for the 5 iron and up rather than for the 4 iron and up. SW: 56* Scratch Tour Dept(CC grooves) w/ Dynamic Gold Spinner When buying shoes I noticed a lot of the shoes in the stores inventory were size 10. Ping G400 Testing G410. After all, you dont want to ruin the make-up of your clubs by getting your angles wrong or by using a homemade contraption. Titleist does recommend no more than +/- 2 degrees from factory and you should be ok. Any more and there is a risk of the stress cracks in the hosel area (primarily cosmetic). I would be VERY patient during this process of changing your ball position. There are the following reasons why you want to bend a club head. Upload or insert images from URL. 8 iron 38 160 Believe it or not, my spin loft used to be worse, but I'm kind of in a rut right now. So, no matter the type of golf irons that you have, you can bend them to adjust their degrees of loft. Using an example of bending a full club strong, say 4*, what's the difference in hitting a 7 iron at *32 to hitting a 6 iron at *32. This is often the case with cheaper branded golf clubs that are mass-produced, as less attention to detail is paid by the manufacturers. If you wanted to know more about how the process works of bending the loft and lie angle of clubs, watch the video below from Mitchell Golf: Although golfers often buy new golf clubs instead of modifying their current irons, bending clubs is a great way to make changes to the loft of your clubs to help you improve your accuracy and consistency. [quote name='HandsomeMatt' timestamp='1441040098' post='12239780'] Believe it or not, my spin loft used to be worse, but I'm kind of in a rut right now. How accurate are the loft and lie readings of clubs straight from the manufacturer? Maybe it's just me but it seems you can't change the relationship between the loft of the club and the spin, given you're putting the same swing on it. Two of the most common swing flaws among amateurs, are swings that are either too "steep" or that are "over the top" (each creating an out-to-in swing path). Show Your True Colors With Mitchell Golfs Custom Color Program. [quote name='Kenny Lee Puckett' timestamp='1441131685' post='12246270'] I was able to do a Mizuno demo show and the rep fit me for mp62's. I can do that with my 5 iron.. Oh wait never mine.
