Kelly Corrigan:They hate it. Kelly Corrigan Wonders on Apple Podcasts 296 episodes Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wonders, a place for people who like to laugh while they think and find it useful to look closely at ourselves and our weird ways in the hopes that knowing more and feeling more will help us do more and be better. Im sorry to ask about the hard part, but would you mind telling me what happened? Kilpy One is called Yesterday and the other is called Tomorrow. Tomorrow, March 28, 2023 would have been his 40th birthday. Kelly Corrigan:And it wasnt my turn for his attention. What do we do when the labels we're given aren't necessarily the ones we choose for ourselves? I mean, people are getting colon cancer at your age all the time. Theyre poking for that critical difference to hold on to, and I wanna hug em, and say, I know. Kilpy Kelly has also agreed to be my friend as part of her contractual commitment to this podcast. Kelly kicks off a new series on BELIEF, delving into topics like the meaning of life, finding purpose, why faith, service and gratitude matter, and more with Dr. MIchael Murray, former Philosophy Professor and current President & CEO of the Arthur Vining Davis Foundations . Onwards! Each episode ends with Kellys shortlist of takeaways, appropriate for refrigerator doors, bulletin boards and notes to your children. Kate Bowler:Wow, and thats a big word. My life doesnt exactly fit into neat categories anymore. It doesnt end, and also you cant live there. Onwards, but you use it so beautifully when youre talking about Lizs family and how they are now. Ten days before I was scheduled to defend my dissertation, English Policies, Curricular Reform and Teacher Development in Multilingual, Post-colonial Djibouti, I got the call. Having interviewed Christy on her podcast, A Slight Change of Plans, Maya shares her story of being a female firefighter and her difficult decision to eventually prioritize her mental health over her job. She died this morning, and I was just sick to my stomach. Kelly Corrigan:Theres a thing Im aware of about eye contact between spouses, and you either make it, or you dont, and once youre aware that thats deeply meaningful, and that it has this kind of almost immeasurable, physiological effect on the other person, then you make an effort to look them in the eye, and that seems like such a small thing, but its actually definitional in terms of your relationship, in terms of whether its a good day, or a bad day, or a good interaction, or a bad interaction. Their oldest, Aaron was killed in a car accident 20 summers ago, just after his freshman year in college. Kelly Corrigan:I mean, unless youre a monk, and youre meditating for 60 days in a mountain somewhere. When bestselling author Kelly Corrigan experienced the death of her dad and dear friend back-to-back, she couldnt shake the feeling that she wasnt living as gratefully as she wanted to. Advice to graduates: Just ask questions Its so that they can identify some critical difference between you and them that makes them feel like they can exhale again. And Ive talked to a couple of my girlfriends whove gotten divorced, and they say the exact same thing happens to them. Kate Bowler:I dont think Ill like it, but I will think of you when I do it. So, Dont eat a hamster is our version of Dont jump to conclusions.. One of the hardest things Ive been wrestling with is not having any clear language for this weird place between sick and healthy, weak and strong. (As consciously lesbian from about four-years old, believe it or not, I preferred handsome to pretty.) She was really, really into manners, and as kind of an act of gratitude, not in an uptight, British way, but as a Look at us eating a meal together, like, Nobody should eat before the last person gets down. Kelly Corrigan:Like, Oh, well we still have sex, so were definitely not going to get a divorce, or you know, Oh my husband doesnt travel, so then were definitely not gonna get a divorce, or you know, I never smoked cigarettes, so Im definitely not going to get breast cancer. I think earn is such a good word, because youre talking about such a complicated math. Kareem means generous. She lives in Philly and I live in California. Maybe I dont have to be good, but I can try to be least a little better then Ive been so far., Riham:Our family motto is Allah Kareem. 5-Minute Listen. You know, I honestly think I only say Im sorry, and not, I was wrong. I think I might try it. I love it that it gives up perfectionism, and it just says, Hey, whats possible today?. Plus, we learn how the same technique can actually reduce racism and prejudice. Kate is a young mother, writer and professor who, at age 35, was suddenly diagnosed with Stage IV cancer. Im a questioning Christian (if there is such a thing) since I doubt youd ever see the Son of God appear in any of the beautiful Catholic or mega churches that apparently represent Him. Go get mixed up in something. A huge thank you to Mahra (the song she sings is from When I Drink by The Avett Brothers), Riham, and Cheryl who shared their family mottos with us. Kelly Corrigan:One that Ive always liked is, Things happen when you leave the house. I think I like the sense of theres something out there that you can tap into. I guess everybody here, these children of mine and my husband, are just too damn busy to get on this, but Im not, so Ill do it, and then I was finishing, and I found a little pile of cut toenails on my kitchen table, and that. Ryland shined brightly - especially in the darkest places. Playlist. And she said, Kelly, Im going to try to do the Uber to this wedding, and I was wondering if you can request a woman, and I said, No you cant, but you can trust it. This is an amazing story. Its the title of my memoir-still-in-progress. I went into this tiny bathroom in Baltimore in our office building, and just cried my eyes out, and it wasnt even because she died. It just ends the tension because what youre saying is, I see it how you see it, and I agree with you. You talk about not having good language for your current state. Weeks later, the missing hamster crawled out from under the stove. Kelly Corrigan:I mean, thats where it is. Kelly Corrigan:Dont get crumbs on the baby. Theres a title. Kelly Corrigan:And so I didnt do it. I dont have the genetic predisposition. Hosted by four-time New York Times bestselling author Kelly Corrigan, the show features insightful conversations with notable guests, reflecting on their lives and the impact they can have on their worlds. Today, I get a chance to talk to Kelly about some of her very best phrases. Kelly Corrigan:So, my dad died in February, and then my friend Liz, whos the mother of three kids, 8, 10, and 12 at the time, died that December. RELATED LINKS Try this episode's happiness practice: 36 Questions for Increasing Closeness Read Kelly Corrigan's new book, Tell Me More Transcript Kate Bowler:I do think people offer certainties when they think that youre proof of something that scares them, and they cant just live in the uncertainty of not knowing for a minute. Theyre poking for that critical difference to hold on to, and I wanna hug em, and say, I know. Like the other day when I was being wheeled into a procedure, the nurse looked at my chart, and then casually said, Colon cancer. Corrigan and her guests meander with insight and humor toward that inevitable moment when you think, "Exactly!" The Best Show with Tom Scharpling a day ago Kelly Corrigan:Yeah. Kathy and her husband Tony have three children. She's an author. Kelly Corrigan:I mean, unless youre a monk, and youre meditating for 60 days in a mountain somewhere. I do need to be reminded of this often There are only two days in the year that nothing can be done. Alex, Constance Wu and Kelly Corrigan in Lafayette, CA. Kelly Corrigan:My friend Andy Lotts, who is Lizs husband, told me about it, cause hes a mom now, and so we talk mom talk. Corrigan and her guests dig into such questions as "Is knowing more always . Kate Bowler:Well, your book has such a wonderful collection of phrases around essays, stuff like Tell me more, and you write about incredible things people can say when theyre figuring out the road ahead. I loved this episode! Kelly Corrigan:Hey, thanks for having me. She reflects on her love and loss through ordinary moments and everyday sayings. Youre giving these beautiful phrases, and each of them feels like a kind of roadmap, and you start with one that really resonated deeply with me. Ask the dancers, and the athletes, the painters, and musicians. Kelly Corrigan:I was perhaps proud about it honestly, and I was reading 7 Habits of Highly Effective People at night with my big fat yellow highlighter, and I was really full of attachment to this identity that I had painted for myself. Shed do dishes all day and into the night to just get to listen to her children, just to get to watch them through a one-way glass, you know? Kelly Corrigan:And Im getting to walk with them way longer on their road, and I felt this sense that I could never possibly deserve that, that Im not that great a person, or a mom. I always asked her this when I wondered if I was handsome in any way. Thats where relationship lives is in these tiny moments, and whether you are cognizant of that and tuned into that channel all the time, or not, that is the story of a relationship. This is the way this has to be, and its right there. Kelly Corrigan:So, I had to wait, and then finally we had a window, and I said, I was wrong. Kate Bowler:Absolutely. Its probably cause of something youve been eating. Im Kate Bowler, and this is Everything Happens. Im Kate Bowler, and this is Everything Happens. I mean, maybe I was projecting, maybe whatever he said in that moment, maybe if he had said peanut butter, and jelly, wed be talking about peanut butter and jelly, but it totally resonated for me in the way that a song lyric does where youre like, I dont know what that means exactly, but Im going to write that down, and put it in my wallet, and its interesting. My mantra for the last decade plus has been show up and be of use. Kelly Corrigan:Where you can feel the person kind of asking around, snooping just enough, and its not for your sake. Kelly reads everything from eulogies to retirement speeches and on February 19th, she . Shed do anything. In other words, it could happen to you tomorrow.. Kelly Corrigan:And how do we earn it? Its probably cause of something youve been eating. Youve shared some gems with us. At a time when so much feels unex Weekly dose of wonder: The glorious sounds of chickens : NPR For our weekly dose of wonder, NPR learns about glorious sounds chicken make at a very important moment in their . Michael Murray on the Social Science of Faith Kelly Corrigan Wonders. I was wondering if you could tell me about that. Kelly Corrigan:Where you can feel the person kind of asking around, snooping just enough, and its not for your sake. I heard your friend died, and I just couldnt bear to call them back. Copyright 2023 Apple Inc. All rights reserved. Phrases like I dont know, I was wrong, and one of my favorites, Its like this. Maybe Wills curious phrase, Its like this, applies here too. So, I really appreciated the way that you framed the bigness and the smallness of it, because it has to be both. Im so thankful I could be a fly on the wall and listen in on your conversation. Thank You for all you do!! CW: death of parent, death of friend to cancer. Its these seemingly trivial moments. The words we speak, and the words spoken over us. Kelly Corrigan:Yeah, and theres forgiveness and acceptance kind of intertwined there that you know, youre going to forget. Onwards, but you use it so beautifully when youre talking about Lizs family and how they are now. You might actually give somebody a chance to discover whats really bothering them, and in that discovery they might find their own solution, but the fact is that if you can bite your stupid tongue, and get over yourself, and just keep eliciting their whole story, then the next thing you know, their mood is changing, and theyre feeling more solution-oriented, and then they get the buzz of solving the problem. Gratefully, I go, Oh, thank you for that bit of suggestion.. We read and appreciate every comment. After the potency of the crime metaphor wore off, I turned to the vocabulary of religion. Even the words left unsaid. Kelly Corrigan:Youre feeling like ABC, not DEF. So thats the beauty of it. Kelly Corrigan:Sure, my pleasure. This is me writing a letter to Liz, and I wrote the whole thing, and I cried my eyes out the whole time I was writing it, and wiping my nose, and blowing my nose, and sitting back down, and Edwards like, You all right? And Im like, Im all right. Kelly Corrigan:So, this was about all of these people calling me to say, I heard your friend died. Kelly Corrigan:Well, chop-chop kid. Despair defies description. Trust your Gut? with Annie Jean Baptiste - Kelly Corrigan Wonders (podcast) Theres meatless Mondays, and theres a kombucha bar, and theres nap pods. Such is a reminder that success is the result of joined efforts and that all of us are touched by the ripples of others contributions. Kelly Corrigan:You cant be in the world, and get through your to-do list, and also sit in endless, rich gratitude. Kelly Corrigan:So, she had to call someone and ask them to come over and zip her dress so she could go to the wedding. I should not be mad about this. I even use it at the end of lectures like, Hey, this is the end of the 19th century. Welcome to Kelly Corrigan Wonders, a place for people who like to laugh while they think and find it useful to look closely at ourselves and our weird ways in the hopes that knowing more and feeling more will help us do more and be better. PRX Series Kelly Corrigan Wonders And the potted plant theory, I cant credit it to someone, Im sorry, I dont know who put it out there, but the idea is that if you were to have a plant in your kitchen, you might not be aware of it at all, and then if someone were to remove it, youd say What happened to that plant?. Kelly Corrigan:You dont always need such a plan, or an agenda, or whatever. Kelly Corrigan:So, I say at the end of this chapter, Shouldnt loss change a person for the better? Jewel and Kelly Corrigan have a conversation in NYC. I was also living only maybe 10 miles from my very old grandma who lived alone, and I kept kind of meaning to go visit her, but its a lot easier to show up at work every day at the United Way, and get kind of righteous about all the people who work for money versus the rest of us who are working for the greater good, than it is to go to your grandmas smelly, weird apartment, and have weird conversations with an 88-year old, you know? Thats the word. The idea that any day could be this huge day, I dont know, that really gets me out of bed, you know? You understand what you did wrong., Kelly Corrigan:So to me, that felt very different than saying, Im sorry. Kelly Corrigan:So, this was about all of these people calling me to say, I heard your friend died. Jennifer Garner tells Kelly Corrigan how she inspires others to find their true passions. Thanks for sharing, Diane! Tell Me More - Kate Bowler Thanks For Being Here Remembering Ryland. I absolutely love that phrase. But first, we need you to sign in to PBS using one of the services below. Kate Bowler:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kelly Corrigan:So, my dad died in February, and then my friend Liz, whos the mother of three kids, 8, 10, and 12 at the time, died that December. Kate Bowler:You put in a strong argument, if I may say it like that, for just being close to one another. Gratefully, (To be fair, Ive loved all that I have listened to). You know, I honestly think I only say Im sorry, and not, I was wrong. I think I might try it. Kate Bowler: I'm Kate Bowler, and this is Everything Happens. Kate Bowler:Yeah, I believe you. The reach of language can be laughable.. So, God is generous was my dads way of promising us a better future. Youre going to slide around, you know, youre going to deserve your life a little more some days than others. Kelly Corrigan:Its like a game changer. Kelly Corrigan. One day I just snapped and threatened to sell the dog. Kelly Corrigan:Hearts dont idle. Im hearing all the music, Im totally tuned in to the right channel, and then just like that, I slip into those mundane irritants., Kelly Corrigan:And then I catch myself, and then I feel this sense of shame, and he said, Its like this. Each episode ends with a special Plus One segment, in which guests are invited to thank those that have supported them along their journey. Tell Me More with Kelly Corrigan | Michael Lewis | Season 5 | Episode 1 Surely, my friend, my lost and lovely friend, called for new words. Kelly Corrigan Wonders: Michael Murray on the Social Science of Faith Kelly Corrigan:And he said, Thats a way to be a parent, which is to say to be there, to be available, to be within view, but not necessarily inserting yourself, because even though as your kids get older and older, it feels like theyre looking for you less and less, it is sort of a comfort to glance over, and see you there, and feel you there, and they would most certainly notice if you werent. Kelly Corrigan:Yeah. Now, eleven years post-cancer, Im still learning to show up and be of use in my life, my marriage, my family and my work for the display of His splendor. Kelly Corrigan, Author - Brief but Spectacular | PBS NewsHour Gratefully, Kilpy Kate Bowler:Well I think part of it, and this gets to another phrase that you write about which is I dont know, but you and I, it sounds like, have given up on certainties as a way to cope with that, both having been through cancer, and also I think both realizing that people really dont like it when you say, I dont know.. Were just a series of days and interactions. Enjoy an intimate and heartfelt interview series hosted by author Kelly Corrigan.MoreMore. So, thats just the question in front of all of us. I have watched every episode on PBS and cannot get enough of the show Mrs Corrigan!!! Use one of the services below to sign in to PBS: You've just tried to add this video to My List. Kelly Corrigan:Ah, it was so terrible. Kate Bowler:Yeah, the indignity. It just ends the tension because what youre saying is, I see it how you see it, and I agree with you. She was really, really into manners, and as kind of an act of gratitude, not in an uptight, British way, but as a Look at us eating a meal together, like, Nobody should eat before the last person gets down. Kate Bowler:Yeah. Thats the word. Each episode in Season 5 of "Tell Me More" will leave you hopeful and with a few more tools in your kit to craft the life you want. Kilpy As Teri said, He didnt have a drug problem, he had a life problem. Kellys guest is actress and author Constance Wu - you may know her from her roles in the breakthrough tv show Fresh Off the Boat and the blockbuster film Crazy, Rich Asians. This is me writing a letter to Liz, and I wrote the whole thing, and I cried my eyes out the whole time I was writing it, and wiping my nose, and blowing my nose, and sitting back down, and Edwards like, You all right? And Im like, Im all right. Maya Shankar and Kelly Corrigan in Lafayette, CA. Writer Kelly Corrigan urges 2021 grads to choose curiosity over judgment Writer Kelly Corrigan is a bestselling memoirist. with Kelly Corrigan When bestselling author Kelly Corrigan experienced the death of her dad and dear friend back-to-back, she couldn't shake the feeling that she wasn't living as gratefully as she wanted to. Lang Lang and Gina Alice play the piano in Lafayette, CA. When I read that, I just kept thinking of how scared Ive been about what I call being a zombie. A former newspaper columnist and four time bestselling author, Kelly wonders about loads of stuff: is knowing more always good? My mom called me maybe three months after my dad died. Kelly Corrigan:Yeah. She totally doesnt get it. Were jumping in way too soon and talking way too much. You've just tried to add this show to My List. I was wrong, and that is very soothing, but then that took me back to this moment where I had gone to work for United Way after college, because I was going to save the world, and I was this total do-gooder. He had things to do for days, and days, and days, and eulogies to write, and people to hug, and people to thank, and accounts to close, and cars to sell, and he had work to do, both emotional and just literally logistics. Download. Kate Bowler:Yeah. I was also living only maybe 10 miles from my very old grandma who lived alone, and I kept kind of meaning to go visit her, but its a lot easier to show up at work every day at the United Way, and get kind of righteous about all the people who work for money versus the rest of us who are working for the greater good, than it is to go to your grandmas smelly, weird apartment, and have weird conversations with an 88-year old, you know? For what Ive just seen in the last six months, I should be different. Im so compassionate to that thing that happens every time you tell someone that you had cancer, which is the other person trying to figure out why its not going to happen to them as fast as possible. I didnt make her final days one bit better, and I lived there for two years. I mean, I dont know why you went with, Everything Happens for a Reason, because Dont get crumbs on the baby, that could be the follow up. Thanks for sharing your personal motto. You know, like it wasnt me. So Kelly, welcome. Its remarkable to hear a bit of your story and Im really grateful that youve shared it with us. Is this how you would have cared for my son?, and you end up fixating on all of these tiny little things, and at the same time, so overwhelmed by not being sure if its trivial or tragic. What do you do when life doesnt fit into neat categories? Kelly Corrigan:Like, Oh, well we still have sex, so were definitely not going to get a divorce, or you know, Oh my husband doesnt travel, so then were definitely not gonna get a divorce, or you know, I never smoked cigarettes, so Im definitely not going to get breast cancer. Allison Wohl: A Toast Women | Faith & Story Shed do dishes all day and into the night to just get to listen to her children, just to get to watch them through a one-way glass, you know? For a special listener who was just diagnosed, here are some thoughts on the stages of recovery that I encourage you to share with every last person you know who is in treatment for anything. 5:55. Kelly has also agreed to be my friend as part of her contractual commitment to this podcast. Duration: 3:0 Transcript HARI SREENIVASAN: Now to another in our Brief But Spectacular. You start with, Its like this.. For every graduate from kindergarten to PhDs -- but especially the kids Kelly Corrigan:And then she died, and my dad called, and my dad had nothing but positive things to say to me my entire life, and he said, You should have gone to see your grandmother more. Go get mixed up in something. Kelly Corrigan Wonders Weekly series started Oct. 4, 2020. So, todays conversation is about developing language to move us forward when life is well, chronic. Kate Bowler:Well, the one that we sort of settled on most was, Dont let the turkeys get you down, cause we were all deeply unpopular children, but it did make me think about mottos, and how it sort of defines the season that we live in. Hopefully youve continued to connect with Kate and Kellys books. Kindly, Kelly Corrigan:And it wasnt my turn for his attention. Ill read you a little bit from the very end of that chapter because the thing that he was saying I think is, This is how it goes.. They thrill, and confound, and circle, and overflow, and disappear, because its like this, having a life.. I mean, that means shes with them. What do we do when the labels were given arent necessarily the ones we choose for ourselves? Join New York Times bestselling author Kelly Corrigan as she choreographs big-ideas conversations with some of the creative thinkers and artists who define our time. Ive read Tell Me More twice already. Im so glad youve been plugging in and hope to keep hearing your feedback! I didnt do it. Its really wonderful to learn more about you and hear the ways youve connected with Kate and the book. I was wondering if you could tell me about that. It was the very last thing that I wrote, and you may be able to relate to this, theres always one part of a book that writes itself, at least for me, where its like, I guess Ive been thinking about this long enough, I guess Ive been living this long enough that its all kind of been subconsciously forming, and now Im just about taking dictation here, and thats the way that was. Stay healthy. We can remove the first show in the list to add this one. I think we make life a little more interesting! Kelly Corrigan:Like, almost every time Im sure that if you just let me take over, I can make this problem go away. Like the other day when I was being wheeled into a procedure, the nurse looked at my chart, and then casually said, Colon cancer. Its what I said to my grad school colleague when she asked me if I planned to go into academia after we graduated. Kate Bowler:Yeah, the indignity. Click here for discussion questions for this podcast episode. Thats my other life mantra. Okay, great. The book is full of warm and witty blessings found within the struggles of our shared humanity, from theNew York Timesbestselling authors ofGood Enough. Kelly Corrigan:You cant be in the world, and get through your to-do list, and also sit in endless, rich gratitude. The ambiguity is quite isolating. Minds dont rest. Kelly Corrigan:Hey, thanks for having me. Kelly Corrigan:So, I get it, but I spend a lot of time with them, and Im madly in love with them, really, really have this deep, incredible connection with them that I just value so much, and they are in her, and you know, theyre everything that was so important to her. It was the very last thing that I wrote, and you may be able to relate to this, theres always one part of a book that writes itself, at least for me, where its like, I guess Ive been thinking about this long enough, I guess Ive been living this long enough that its all kind of been subconsciously forming, and now Im just about taking dictation here, and thats the way that was. I even use it at the end of lectures like, Hey, this is the end of the 19th century. Kate Bowler:Well I think part of it, and this gets to another phrase that you write about which is I dont know, but you and I, it sounds like, have given up on certainties as a way to cope with that, both having been through cancer, and also I think both realizing that people really dont like it when you say, I dont know.. The result is "Think Twice: Michael Jackson," a 10-part podcast from Audible and Wondery that will be available exclusively on Audible and Amazon Music on Thursday. You cant live in that. Today is the right day to Love, Believe, Do and mostly Live. Team Everything Happens, Hi Kate, You are in good company. When I read that, I just kept thinking of how scared Ive been about what I call being a zombie. Surely, my friend, my lost and lovely friend, called for new words. Okay, great. Theres a whole world out there happening, and you can step into all kinds of things, and you dont need to know why youre leaving the house. Im like, Yeah, right. Kelly Corrigan is the best-selling author of "Tell Me More: Stories about the 12 Hardest Things I'm Learning to Say," and a proud graduate of the University of Richmond. Enjoy an intimate and heartfelt interview series hosted by author Kelly Corrigan. I think part of why your book is so moving is the way that these sayings crystallize these really big truths about who we are, and also how we should love each other.
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